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Tommy Olsson (of DC-Pöbeln)
on Betty Page, high-heels and a fat man





Interviewed on 22.09.05
by 'Fantasies For An Electric Funeral'

Once again we had the opportunity to interview an artist whose music is supported by our small website - this time Tommy Olsson of DC-Pöbeln from Sweden. Probably most readers know DC-Pöbeln's classic track "Bettan" - but do you know more about the band? No? Nevermind.......me neither! So we'd better start the interview:

Although I own the DC-Pöbeln 7inch "Bettan" (see cover scan!) I must admit that I don't know anything about the band. Shame on me! So I think it would be nice to learn something about the band in general first.

No need to feel ashamed. Few people know more than you, but I`m one of those few, so I´ll try and sort this out, even though it´s a fairly complicated issue; DC-Pöbeln (or sometimes Dagcenterpöbeln, or the shorter DC-P) was concieved in the Swedish city of Örebro by "Guggi" & "17" in the fine year of 1982 as a piece of confusing grafitti. Me being "Guggi". As for "17", it feels like a bit of an outing to reveal his identity as he is now a famous adult oriented rock-producer with a great appetite for cholesterol, but what the heck; he was christened Johan Kugelberg by his parents 40 years ago. That´s the line-up really, apart from us there were no "members" as such; merely collaborators and people who happened to own synthesizers and stuff. People unlucky enough to cross our path. More a concept than a band; which is common now, but from where we came unheard of then. DC-Pöbeln played live twice, and it is symptomatic that the only person present on stage on both occassions was a rather distant relation who performed some wacko kind of rituals without ever being asked. Johan was on stage on the first event, and I on the other. (Oddly enough, both concerts took place in museums) And "17" is not present on the recording of "Bettan" (though he assembled the material that appears on the b-side). Since both me and Johan/"17" moved quite often across the map (I still do, by the way; he lives in Nicaragua now, so he don't have to) recording sessions were sparse, but I believe there were 4-5 sessions between 1983 - 1994. However, both of us made stuff with other people that appeared all over the industrial tape trading network at the time under the name, or one of the names. I must also stress that "Bettan" is not typical in any sense; in general we did not sound that slick, or that organised. Certainly not when we were in the same room!
Johan Kugelberg? The man who compiled the first volumes of the "Killed by Death" series and who is an editor of "Ugly Things" magazine? The guru of diy-punk rock himself? What a surprise! Unbelievable…..how did it come to this - were you schoolmates?
Yes, Killed by Fat - that's the one; and no, we did´nt go to school; we just happened to be in the same place at the same time with similar interests. First met him when I was 16, I think - we were both skinnier then.
By the way I like "Bettan" a lot. Sure, I don't understand the lyrics but I regard them as sounds so it doesn't matter to me.......although it would be interesting to know what both songs are about.
When you say "both songs" I take it that you mean the b-side? Not really a song, but ok...that´s a professional gravedigger talking about his job and everyday life and the conclusions he`s made about life and death in general. It was broadcasted on the national radio and we kind of, eh, rearranged it a bit for our own amusement...perfect b-side, really. "Bettan" is more or less about being in a bar and falling in love with the female bartender and order more beer than you need only to get her attention - never a good strategy...but the lyrics takes a surreal twist after the opening lines, so it´s hard to tell if it is really "about" anything; and it ends with these samples of a guy speaking about his dreams...weird shit.
As you also say, "Bettan" is not the typical sound of DC-Pöbeln. I guess the two other songs that I know ("It actually never started" & "En sekund") that are more industrial/noise like are more typical for DC-Pöbeln. Why then isn't something of this kind on the single instead of the untypical "Bettan" song?
There was no typical sound of DCP until 1985, when we made a racket based on Bo Diddley, and gave the same treatment to Television´s "Little Johnny jewel". "Bo Diddley" is to be found on compilation album "Modern popmusic according to de Selby" released by Konduktör late 1985 (see cover scan!); "Little Johnny Jewel" is included on my own retrospective 2 x CD "C´mon Doc it´s only a scratch 1979 - 1999", released by Balkong in Norway 1999. "Bettan" was my piece lyric-wise, but musically the work of Göran Kinnander - who, by the way, did´nt know of the records existence until several years later. It´s my vocals; to call it "singing" would be to stretch it a bit far, dont you think? It´s kind of spoken, really. The other tracks you mention dates back to 1981 - 82. As for a discography; that would mean lots of research into tapetraders from the 80`s; but on vinyl there´s nothing apart from the 7inch and the comp. There´s supposed to be a CD of the last session in 1994, but I have not seen it, nor do I have a copy of the tape. It sucks, because I remember it as one of our more inspired moments, covering everything from Whitney Houston to Psychic TV with cocktail hammond organ, bongos and guitars completely out of tune, but I never had a copy.
Perhaps you know that "Bettan" was compiled on a bootleg CD-sampler series called "Tribute To Flexipop" that is available for about 17 Euro. What do you think about those people making money with unlicenced songs? Is it ok for you?
Well, I don't think anyone makes any significant money here. And the label of the "Bettan" 7inch clearly states "No Copyright", so I´m not gonna come down on someone who digs it enough to bootleg it and whine about getting paid some 20 years later. The odds on that happening aren't great anyway. And being a bit of a record-sniffer myself, I know bootlegs like these serve a very valuable purpose - where would you otherwise find a copy of a record pressed in 500 copies in a distant country many many yearsago? To be against it would mean being in favour of a lot of good stuff getting lost forever; there would be no "Pebbles", "Back from the Grave", or "Killed by Death" series. And frankly, the Flexipop discs seem to boldly compile what has not been before; it´s creative archeology more than anything else - I just wish they would send me a copy, so far I´ve only read about it.
Yes, you are right; without the Flexipop series I wouldn't know "Bettan" for example and I wouldn't have searched for the original record to buy it. It seems that the Flexipop series is also very successful in opening up a market for obscure 80s music. And regarding modern electroclash-bands (e.g. "Fisherspooner", "Chicks On Speed", "Artists Unknown" etc.) I even think - perhaps due to Flexipop and other comparable series - the influence of obscure music of the 80s have a more profound effect on the contemporary music scene than ever before; same thing with 80s fashion, style, film, graphic and art in general. What do you think why?
Because the legacy of the 80`s is so vast, and goes way beyond the tv-shop box-sets of crap I didn't want to hear then and certainly not know. Remember, these were the post-punk prime times: anything in contemporary music that´s even remotely interesting can be traced back here - and don't forget Whitehouse, still going strong, just getting better after 25 years of white noise! Also, of course, it´s the golden age of DIY records, the birth of goth, the resurrection of garage punk, amongst loads of really cool stuff and weird shit. People will have you believe it was the time of Boy George and Spandau Ballet when it was really the golden age of Einstürzende Neubauten and the Native Hipsters. It wasn't just hairgel, you know.
Regarding the cover of the single and the mentioned vinyl-sampler....eh well…do you like Betty Page?
Well, I´m a man, right? Funny thing is, we were early on that one; ten years later she was everywhere and all the stuff we were sitting on while pouring saliva on our right hands got reprinted and blown out of proportions. It´s not exclusive anymore, which I find a bit boring, really. I have other obsessions these days...
Which ones:-)?
This one´s pretty cool: sexlink1 and this one certainly dont suck: druglink2 - click on "Evil dope" - and, ah, I work too much, but every now and then I enjoy a good beating, give and take.
Hm...sick pic....are you the one wearing the high-heels, aren't you:-)?!
No, God forbid - a man in heels! That's disgusting!
Hehe! ...as you also said one of your obsessions is work. What are you working on?
Busy right now preparing a lecture at the art academy in Bergen; but most of the time I spend writing art criticism; I´m also a single parent... Before that I was an artist with a nasty reputation for sexually explicit videoworks; I also worked part time in a piercing studio and, ah, yes, a fetish shop; whips and bondage gear and other cool stuff that´s handy to have at home. But I would say I´m more or less a fulltime freelance writer at the moment.

So you don't make music anymore?
Oh yes, I do, occasionally, but for the moment I´m too busy.
Well, if you have some new tracks just let us know. By the way I read in the net that your 2CD "C´mon Doc it´s only a scratch 1979 - 1999" spawns a huge variety of music styles. On that website even Black Metal was mentioned. Is that CD still avaiable?
Balkong Helgesens gate 82D N-0563 Oslo Norway tel +47 22 19 66 24 - I think their e-mail is balkong@online.no, but I´m not quite sure about that.
There might be a few copies left, but as for the black metal-connection I must say that´s very exaggerated - I`m not sure where those words come from, but on the other hand I´m very found of black metal, but I did´nt really catch on to it before I was 40.
Sounds weird to me but I'm a Black Metal lover too. And so I will try to get a copy:-). Also many thanks for the interview and the soundfiles! Hope we keep in touch......
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(ak)

 


DC-Pöbeln

"En Sekund" (mp3/ 4,7 MB) click here!
"It Actually Never Started" (mp3/ 8,6 MB) click here!
both tracks were recorded ca. in 1981-1982

"Bettan Star I Baren" (mp3/ 6,6 MB) click here!
"Dödgrävaren" (mp3/ 6,4 MB) click here!
both tracks were taken from the only 7inch of DC-Pöbeln released by Konduktör in 1985

"Fist Fuck Force" (mp3/ 1,3 MB) click here!
recorded live in 1985


"X Mas Card" (mp3/ 2,9 MB) click here!
released on the tape comp. "Putasserie" in 1989

 





- - - - All soundfiles and photos are used by permission of Tommy Olsson
. We say thank you! Enjoy! - - - -



Bisherige Beiträge in dieser Rubrik:

Interview with Simon Patterson aka "Spoon Fazer" (in english) - 19.10.2004

Interview mit Karl Bathos (ex-Kraftwerk) aus der Süddeutschen Zeitung (auf deutsch) - 30.08.2003



WEITERFÜHRENDE LINKS

Hier sind wie, der Name der Rubrik schon sagt, einige Links zum Thema Minimal/Goth/Synth/Punk zu finden. Ok, es sind nicht viele, aber lieber ein paar wenige und dafür gute, als einen unendliche Wust an Müll. Also schaut doch mal dort vorbei!

"www.minimal-elektronik.de" -- Gute Seite mit Rezensionen, Veranstaltungstips, einer guten Einführung in das Thema, Bandlinklist und und und....Auf deutsch!

"Kill From The Heart" -- Sehr gute Musikseite, die mit Links und lexikalischem Wissen über einschlägige Punk-Bands glänzt! Umfangreich! Klasse!

"New Wave Artwork" -- Ebenfalls sehr gute Seite, die sich speziell dem französischen Minimal/Coldwave/Punk widmet! Empfehlenswert!

"Xeroid Records" -- Gute Seite mit Synthpunk! Ideal zum Einstieg.....da viele weiterführende Links! Empfehlenswert!

"Blechluft" -- Seite, die sich vor allem dem deutschen Bands der 80iger widmet. Mit einem guten Überblick deutscher Tapes von damals!

"www.newwavephotos.com" -- Wie der Name schon sagt, Seite mit massig Photos von New Wave Bands! Mal was anderes.