Information about Rolling Stones CDs on the London label

or why you need the German / Japanese pressings on the London label and not the currenctly available ABKCO crap.


Introduction:  99.99% of the text below is by Mathijs van Heteren.  The original text is available here.  I just copied it to my own webserver so that this excellent work does not get lost!  Thanks for his excellent research.  The text examines the different Rolling Stones CDs and tells you why you need the German / Japanese pressings on the London label.  Here we go:

The Rolling Stones official back catalogue from 1963 until 1969 is most confusing, and frustrating to! The Stones management decided to make a distinctive difference between the U.S. and U.K. market by releasing different singles, track listings on albums and sometimes even song versions. When in 1984 most of the Stones sixties catalogue was released on CD by LONDON (in association with ABKCO), suddenly some tracks appeared in true stereo instead of the original mono and some tracks were even alternate versions. Especially the compilation CD’s “Hot Rocks” and “More Hot Rocks” featured some nice surprises.

In 1986 ABKCO released the complete catalogue again for the American market, and this time with a “Digitally Remastered From Original Master Recordings” banner. These releases are beyond doubt horrible!  First, they all have the original American, thus shortened, track listings and all tracks appear in MONO, even where stereo versions are available. But worse, all ABKCO albums seem to be taken from vinyl, and not from the master tapes! (Listen to “Time is on My Side” from the Singles Collection…) Pops and surface noise can be detected, and the sound is condensed and distorted! It is really a shame that one of the best sixties albums “Aftermath” is not available in store these days the way the album was meant to be: 14 tracks in true stereo, as can be found on the original U.K. CD release. The copies of “Aftermath” found in store these days are truly horrible sounding.

The CD’s to look for are the LONDON European (except one which was only released in Japan) releases. These releases have the blue and red LONDON label printed on the front inlay and do not feature the “ABKCO” and “Digitally Remastered” banner on the bottom of the front inlay. 8 LONDON titles were released in Japan with a “Digitally Remastered” banner in the left upper corner and these versions also feature the stereo versions These Japanese versions are harder to find. The order numbers of the U.K. LONDON catalogue exist of 7 digits and the first three always being “820”. Except for the Japanese “The Rolling Stones NO. 2”, LONDON titles are not hard to find in Europe in second hand CD-shops and record fairs, and the value is approximately 25 U.S.$. On the auction site E-Bay some people ask ridiculous prices (like $100 for the U.K. edition of Aftermath) for these LONDON titles, which is criminal in my opinion.  (Ed.:  I beg to differ.  In late 2001, the London titles have become really hard to find.  Yes, it was easy in 1999/2000 but now, the CDs are really gone!)

Here the deviations of the Stones 60’s discography can be found. In the tables the (true) stereo versions can be found.

N.A. means Not Applicable. If a stereo version can only be found on the U.K. London version, the order number for the U.S. ABKCO version is not applicable. The denotation “1”, “2” or “3” means “total of titles on which this stereo track can be found”. E.g., “Time is on My Side” can be found on 2 CD’s: the Japanese “The Rolling Stones NO.2” and the European “Hot Rocks 1”. The denotation “1” means that the track can only be found on one CD title; therefore this title is a must. The order numbers given are the order numbers of my own copies; I do acknowledge the existence of other copy numbers.

Discography

1. “England’s’ Newest Hit Makers “

The Stones’ first album, released as “The Rolling Stones” in the U.K., and as “England’s Newest Hit Makers” in the U.S.Differences between the versions are the added “Not Fade Away” and the missing “Mona (I Need You Baby)” on the U.S. version. The U.K. version has a different “Tell Me (You’re Coming Back)” then the U.S. version (the U.S. version can also be found on “Singles Collection: The London Years”). The U.K. version features a guitar break and runs longer. Note: on some extremely rare vinyl pressings “Mona (I need You Baby)” was listed as just “Mona” (credit to Basement News, No. 16). “It’s All Over Now” from “England’s Newest Hit Makers” can be found in stereo on the “More Hot Rocks 1” title.
 
More Hot Rocks 1 (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
Origin
Germany
Order number ABCKO
CD 626 11385-I5-9277-2-N
Order number LONDON
820 515-2
It's All Over Now
1

2. “12 * 5”

The U.S. only 12 by 5 features no stereo tracks, but has a different “Time is on My Side” then the single version released a month before. This version has an organ intro instead of a guitar intro. The guitar ‘single’ version can be found on ABKCO’s “Singles Collection: The London Years”, including crackles.

3. “The Rolling Stones, Now! 

Released January 15, 1965, the U.K. version “The Rolling Stones No. 2” features a different, slower “Everybody Needs Somebody to Love” then its U.S. equivalent “The Rolling Stones, Now!”. “The Rolling Stones No. 2” has only been released in Japan on CD, and features 4 stereo tracks. For the European and American market LONDON decided to release the U.S. version on CD, featuring 3 stereo tracks. Fortunately the stereo “I Can’t Be Satisfied” can be found on the European “More Hot Rocks 2” title. I do not know if ABKCO used any stereo tracks for their version of “The Rolling Stones, Now!”.
 
The Rolling Stones No. 2
The Rolling Stones, Now!
Big Hits
Hot Rocks 1
More Hot Rocks 2 (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
Origin
Japan
Germany
Japan
Japan/Germany
Germany
Order number ABCKO
N.A.
N.A.
N.A.
820 1P25L 250479
CD 627/2 11386-SB 10204
Order number LONDON
POCD-1913
820 133-2
POCD-1964
820 141-2
820 516-2
Time Is On My Side
2
2
What A Shame
2
2
Down The Road Apiece
2
2
I Can't Be Satisfied
2
2
Heart of Stone
3
3
3

4. Out Of Our Heads

The first album released in (reprocessed) stereo. Early vinyl pressings of “Out Of Our Heads” had a different version of “The Under-Assistant West Coast Promotion Man”, with extended vocal lines during the fade out of the song (“I break My Ass Everyday”). This version can be found ABKCO’s “Singles Collection: The London Years”. “Satisfaction” does not appear on the U.K. version. Two songs from “Out Of Our Heads” can be found in true stereo. 
 

Hot Rocks 1

Origin
Japan/Germany
Order number ABCKO
820 1P25L 250479
Order number LONDON
820 141-2
Satisfaction
1
Play With Fire
1

5. December’s Children (and Everybody’s) 

This U.S. album “December’s Children (and Everybody’s)” is a compilation of unreleased tracks, single-only tracks, and tracks only released in the U.K. The ABKCO version on CD is in MONO, whereas 2 tracks appear in stereo on the LONDON version.
 
December's Children
Hot Rocks 1
Origin
Germany
Japan/Germany
Order number ABCKO
N.A.
820 1P25L 250479
Order number LONDON
820 135-2
820 141-2
Look What You've Done
1
Get Off Of My Cloud
2
2

6. Aftermath

The ABKCO release of Aftermath is completely worthless. In order to get all tracks from the Aftermath sessions (and in stereo!), one must get the LONDON (“purple”) version of “Aftermath and “Hot Rocks 1” for the stereo “Paint it, Black”.
 
Aftermath
Aftermath
Flowers
Hot Rocks 1
More Hot Rocks 2 (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
Origin
U.S.
German
Germany
Japan/Germany
Germany
Order number ABCKO
844 466-2
N.A.
N.A.
820 1P25L 250479
CD 627/2 11386-SB 10204
Order number LONDON
N.A.
820 050-2
820 139-2
820 141-2
820 516-2
Mothers Little Helper
3
3
3
Paint It, Black
1
Stupid Girl
1
Lady Jane
3
3
3
Under My Thumb
2
2
Doncha Bother Me
2
2
Think
2
2
Flight 505
2
2
High and Dry
2
2
Out Of Time (Long Version)
1
I'ts Not Easy
1
I am Waiting
1
Take It Or leave It
2
2
What To Do
2
2
Going Home
1

6. Got LIVE If You Want It!

The LONDON version of Got LIVE If You Want It! (820 137-2) features an incomplete introduction of the Stones (the fantastic Rolling Stones! Billy Wyman!!), a shortened version of Satisfaction and a different version of Under My Thumb, compared to the ABKCO version (844 467-2). “I’ve Been Loving You Too Long” and “Fortune Teller” are actually studio versions with added screaming teenagers. The LONDON version is stereo, whereas the ABKCO version is mono. All vocals have been redone in the studio. Amazing album in my opinion, it is the earliest punk available!

7. Between the Buttons

The same here as for “Aftermath”: the ABKCO version is horrible! It sounds bad and most tracks are mono. In order to get all tracks from the “Between the Buttons” sessions, one must get the LONDON version (820 138-2) and the LONDON “Flowers” for the “Black Street Girl” and “Please Go Home”. These tracks are in mono on the ABKCO version. 
 
Between The Buttons
Between The Buttons
Flowers
Origin
U.S.
Germany
Germany
Order number ABCKO
844 468-2
N.A.
N.A.
Order number LONDON
N.A.
820 138-2
820 139-2
Let's Spend The Night Together
2
2
Ruby Tuesday
3
3
3
Back Street Girl
1
Connection
1
She Smiled Sweetly
2
2
Cool, Calm & Collected
2
2
All Sold Out
1
Please Go Home
1
My Obsession
1
Who's Been Sleeping Here
1
Complicated
1
Miss Amanda Jones
1
Something Happened To Me Yesterday
1

8. Flowers 

Released outside of Europe, “Flowers” contains the songs missing on the U.S. version of “Between The Buttons” added with some single tracks and three new tracks. I do not know if “My Girl” and “Ride On, Baby” are in stereo on the ABKCO version.
 
Flowers
More Hot Rocks 1 (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
More Hot Rocks 2 (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
Singles Collection: The London Years
Origin
Germany
Germany
Germany
Germany
Order number ABCKO
N.A.
CD 626 11385-I5-9277-2-N
CD 627/2 11386-SB 10204
844 481-2
Order number LONDON
820 139-2
820 515-2
820 516-2
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Out Of Time (short, bass intro version)
2
2
Out Of Time (short, strings version)
1
My Girl
1
Ride On, Baby
1
Sitting on a Fence
2
2

9. Beggar’s Banquet

I have always assumed this album to be only available in stereo on both LONDON and ABKCO. To my big surprise, on ABKCO the “Beggar’s” takes are in MONO! “Beggar’s Banquet” can be found completely in stereo on the LONDON version, order number 800 084-2. I do not know if the ABKCO version is in stereo or in mono. 

10. Let It Bleed

“Let It Bleed” is in stereo on both the ABKCO and LONDON version.

9. Bits and Pieces

Some songs can only be found on compilation. The return to the blues, and to most people the start of the golden period, “Jumping Jack Flash” was only released as a single, only to surface one year later on the “Through the Past, Darkly” big-hits album. 

“We Love You” can be found in true stereo on “More Hot Rocks 2”and it is remarkable the Stones released this song initially in mono. The production is inspired by the Beach Boy’s “Pet Sounds” and it is strange to put so much energy in the production only to release it in mono. The stereo version is breath taking!

“Try a Little Harder”, originally from the “Metamorphosis” album, is the only originally mono track to appear in stereo on the ABKCO’s “Singles Collection”. Note: even “No Expectation” is in mono on this title! Note: The 3 CD Singles Collection has been released by ABKCO in a thick clamshell jewel case. However, LONDON has released “The Singles Collection” as three single CD’s, in as box set with a booklet (order no.’s: 820-905-2-01, 820-906-2-01 and 820-907-2-01). I have never heard this release, but it is reported to feature several more stereo tracks, e.g. the stereo Honky Tonk Women.
 
Hot Rocks 2
More Hot Rocks 1 (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
More Hot Rocks 2 (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
Singles Collection: The London Years
Origin
Germany
Germany
Germany
Germany
Order number ABCKO
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CD 626 11385-I5-9277-2-N
CD 627/2 11386-SB 10204
844 481-2
Order number LONDON
820 142-2
820 515-2
820 516-2
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Through the Past, Darkly

Honky Tonk Women
1
Dandelion
1
We Love You
1
More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies)
Child Of The Moon
2
2

Singles Collection: The London Years

Try a Little Harder
1

10. What Do We Need

If you want to have all tracks in best possible sound, you need to purchase all releases by LONDON. For extra tracks, or tracks in stereo, in order to be complete, you must purchase:

1.Both LONDON and ABKCO “Got LIVE If You Want It!”

2.The LONDON “Flowers” for 4 tracks;

3.The LONDON “Hot Rocks 1” for 3 tracks; 

4.The LONDON “Hot Rocks 2” for 1 track; 

5.The LONDON “More Hot Rocks 1” for 1 track;

6.The LONDON “More Hot Rocks 2” for 2 tracks;

7.The ABKCO “Singles Collection” for 3 tracks.
 

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